Friday, May 06, 2005

Subjective Talk

Note to Reader: This is a further discussion in relation to here: http://whiskers.squarespace.com/journal/2005/4/28/changing-things.html

I know that hope is merely wishful thinking. Actions are the course in which you can change a person, but only to a certain extent. I mean you can teach all you want to person, but if he or she is going to clam up or refuse to learn that lesson, then there's nothing much we can do right? No matter how much you advise someone or bang your head against wall while you're at it, it's ultimately down to the individual. In this way, I feel that we choose, direct and own your lives mostly. Outside factors play a part yes, but it's up to you isn't it?
Where have I been to if I've been reliving experiences? I've been everywhere, no matter how different I try things, whether it's being cautious, or being open and giving a fresh slate, being tough (i assumed that this strategy might work seeing how they might not mess with me), different approaches have been attempted yet more or less the same result (not all experiences are the same I agree.. but the bottom line is).

I know what I want to change, it's just changing it that's going to be difficult and would probably take a lot of time, because I would have to stamp down on that in-built reaction I've come to have. You know how when you've burnt yourself on a hot stove, and your bodily mechanisms screams a warning everytime you go near one or when you've accidentally pricked yourself while handling a needle during sewing, so everytime you sew, you fingers sweat a little out of tension and nervousness .. yeah, something like that.
Try chasing it away like a roach? Maybe. We'll see.

Yes and I'm beginning to see how manipulative we can really be. Especially us females. That's how the whole idea of women being smarter than men came about in the first place. This cleverness has got nothing to do with brains or degrees. It's the faculty she has of being able to guess ahead of the guy, this is usually knowing what he is thinking about before he even says it or being able to control his reactions to a small extent.
The very height of this cleverness is never having to tell the guy or her husband what to do, it is so "feminine" and to a certain extent manipulative.
For example, she suggests something she wants him to do, but does it in such a way that he thinks he thought of it first. Of course, the guy's native pride fills with pleasure thinking he is so brilliant but the clever woman smiles like the Mona Lisa, knowing she has him in the hollow of her hand - so as to speak. Meanwhile, the guy takes this smile as a compliment to himself.

I know I have been manipulative on a few occassions with my friends, mostly with the guys or ex-es. But like you said, we can choose to be very manipulative or less. For me, I guess I'll only be that way if the situation calls for it. I don't really like the whole manipulative idea. And I also know I can be manipulated, heh. But I guess it's the intention as well as the consequence that shows whether it's acceptable right? Not the act itself.

Speaking of guys, I may be wrong, but I'm beginning to see that people do treat others of a different race, differently, in a BGR context.
I may be wrong, but I am judging on how I am being treated by guys of my own race and guys of a different race. I'm not being racist here, I have no problems or qualms about my own race, I'm just making observations so bear with me.
I will not be specific as to pin-point which races, but I feel guys of a different race tend to be more gentle, accepting and well.. mature than my own. Or maybe it's just certain qualities that different races have? I know that your upbringing has a role to play in it though.
Maybe, it's one of the small tiny reasons why Beckie and David have survived for so long? Both different, yet accepting?
Shu's parents are of mixed races, mixed cultures but I do remember a few occassions where her mom expressed concerns on her involvement with only a certain race. She was protective over her own race. Does this mean she's racist? I don't think so, but maybe she has a preference? I'm not sure.
With Beckie, her whole family is a mixed "rojak". Different flavours all thrown into one dish, but you would never feel uncomfortable or see them to be of different colour but instead just different people.

Sigh.

Psychology is very subjective isn't it? I mean, you can go on and on about it; people can come along and input a different view or theory and there's never really a right or wrong answer. I don't think I could ever have this as a career. I mean, I love this whole analysis thing and it's so challenging and refreshing at times, but I feel think too much, I would not want to be doing it 24/7.
I like that I'm into Accounts and soon to be Law (but a minor only) for my professional career. When you encounter a complicated scenario, there may be a few ways to solve it, but it all boils down to the same concept. Once it's solved, it's over and done with and you move on to the next, if any. I'm glad I picked this career, I was always worried about making the wrong decision, it helps to manage the different sides and interests I have, it gives me leeway to pursue and delve into other areas without reckless abandonment and not having to deal with uncertainty.
I can have a stable career, support myself and yet be happy in my other hobbies or pursuits. It makes me feel complete, like a full circle.

The past few days have been a little rough on me. The "wild, free-spirit" side was making itself heard too much. Maybe it's my biological clock inside me that's having me crave and yearn the things I want so much, for so long. And that evil side had me jealous of my loved ones, just for a while though.
What comforts me most is the fact that I can call her at midnight and just talk about what I feel. She said it's just a matter of time. Yes it is.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Did you know that before he met me, David never had any indian friends...not on purpose but he just generally didn't mix well with indians. Then he met me. And the year after, his english teacher was this singh guy that he eventually came to really respect (and they're really good friends till now)...so yeah, that changed things quite a bit.

I hope you didn't feel offended by my posting. It wasn't meant to be AT you or FOR you...it was just what I was thinking at the moment.

Uryale said...

Really? Interesting.
I don't know Beckie, I find that Chinese guys are so much more "attractive" to me now. It's their personality and behaviour as a whole, I guess. They're less complicated, dramatic and well.. more refined. And they treat me better... or maybe it's just the SFP working, ya know based on my reactions.. (arrghh! I'm thinking too much).
But ya know... I don't think it's that. I'm really starting to believe that people subconsciously do treat people of the other race differently. Like, most people take people of their own race for granted. They let you put up with more crap. Get what I'm saying?
What do you think? Need your input.
And I seem to be a bit "put off" by Indian guys.. it's like most of them have got a certain mentality that annoys the hell out of me.

No no, I was not offended. I know you're putting down what you think, likewise I'm putting down what I think... just wanted to elaborate. I hope you don't think I'm being defensive or attacking you or being offended. *laughs*
This is quite funny, don't ya think?

Anonymous said...

Funny how?? haha, I'm not offended, I couldn't care less if you called me a bum or a bitch cause I really am, at heart. Anyway...enough about me and my self-confidence.

I don't like to be racist but it's a fact, chinese are generally more objective about things in life...they tend to focus on goals and orientate life accordingly.

I mean, stereotyping a race is never really a means to an end. I mean there will always be exceptions to the rule and I mean if you've got a million people of one race that means at least 100 to 1000 are an exception...and that's a lot of people.

But I think the most telling way of getting to know a person for the first time, is in a big group...who do they hang with, what do they do...I guess that's why youth groups, parties and activites play such an important role in a teens life.

The best way to really get to know a person, you've known for a while, is to play a game with them. Like in the Matrix, "the only true way to know someone is to fight them." I think it's bloody true. I've played a fair amount of games with people and that's really when the primal instincts come out.

but you know, even after noticing all this, I wonder if I've observed so much that I've lost all hope of having an identity of my own...you know?

Uryale said...

Don't be ridiculous! You're not a bum/bitch at heart, I mean we all can be one (that's the evil side of us) but I think most of us are sweeties at heart. (You included)

Yeah, of course there are exceptions to the rule, but in general I'm beginning to prefer the company of Chinese guys.

Fight them? Really? But doesn't that rock the boat too much, (you know you too much bad energy and stuff)
Speaking of which, you can be a little intimidating when you're pissed or something.
Have you played any games with me and Shules? If so, what do you make of it?

Sometimes, we see so much of "truth" that it's easy to lose hope and even or own identity.. or least we think we do.
We have our own identities... it's just whether we see them or not, there are times when we lose sight of it.

You okay? You don't sound so good.

Anonymous said...

Shuls:

Hey gal... glad hear you're feeling somewhat better and without prozac too! :P
You know, speaking of stereotypes, everyone has them... I once had a class with a professor who made us talk about our stereotypes and people would say "Oh no, I don't do that, I don't have anything against anyone! But you know, Im not particularly fond of smokers cos they're a crass, inconsiderate bunch." It was a frightening, humbling lesson, and I realise that no matter how much you try and justify yourself, it'll always be human nature. On the one hand, it's meant to help us simplify diverse information and can be harmless, but when that crosses the line to discrimination, that's when the problem starts...
And yes, I have a stereotype of indian-chinese mixed people. They're absolutely corny but lovable, like to play with weapons, and have nicknames that sound like Ponky. Whad'ya think?

And I'd never ever thnk that you both were bitches.

Anonymous said...

I'm fine...quite a good mood today actually. It's just things I think about. Still waters run deep. Emotions are but a temporary relief from the mundane hum of the gears in my head.

hahaha. somehow thw way shu put "And I'd never ever thnk that you both were bitches." sounds very funny. In her ghetto mama tones...haha.

Did you notice we missed each other by a couple of minutes...that's so cool..4:17pm, 4:20pm and then me...whenever.

"I'm your girl, you're my girl, we your girls, Don't you know that we love ya" - D's Child, girl.

As for the games...check my blog.

Uryale said...

Haha... yes Shu! I support you on this one.. we're not bitches! we're quite nice people actually..